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#1 03-08-2010 9:03 pm

OzzyOzymandias
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Motivation for S/T..

I hear alot about Gatsby from themselves and fans about shit going on with the record labels/producers/whoever, especially on their newest CD, but who's the actual antagonist?

On Volcano, all the songs were allusions to books, volcanos, good stuff like that, and then S/T comes out -on the same record label- and the entire thing is against "the music industry".
Did something in between those albums happen with Fearless to make them seem like giant robots, or was were the songs influenced from Gatsby's past experiences with record labels?
(sorry if that didn't make too much sense, first post :D)

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#2 03-08-2010 9:47 pm

Trousey
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Re: Motivation for S/T..

i would say that those feelings were always there, but unlike volcano, S/T was their last contractual album.  so basically knowing they werent going to continue or be signed by anyone, they used their last album to give a huge middle finger to the whole industry.  as we all know its perfectly fine to be anti government, just ask NOFX or Anti-Flag. follow the music industrys rules and you can bad talk anyone you want, EXCEPT the music industry.

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#3 03-08-2010 9:57 pm

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Re: Motivation for S/T..

Whoa.

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#4 03-08-2010 10:19 pm

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Re: Motivation for S/T..

And kvn wanted to close out the registration.

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#5 03-09-2010 10:48 am

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Re: Motivation for S/T..

kvn wrote:

Whoa.

Haha awesome

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#6 03-13-2010 9:20 am

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Re: Motivation for S/T..

Dow wrote:

And kvn wanted to close out the registration.

applause

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#7 05-01-2010 10:57 am

SpiritualWarrior
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Re: Motivation for S/T..

Hey I don't post here much, but I was actually talking with a really good friend of mine about how Gatsby got really spiritual with their last album and I think that if one isn't spiritual, one won't see the ultimate spiritual message that came especially with White Mountains. Yes, the album was a big fuck you, but ultimately they are resolving to live by love and the heart instead of the fear of the monsters in control. The three-legged machine I figured was a metaphor in some way that probably referred to totalized control. I mostly thought of government (three branches, three legs) but I'm sure they could have left it metaphorical to be left up to interpretation.

The White Mountains are the oldest mountains in the world. Spiritually this is very significant because despite the fact that life is eternal (and simply is) the mountains as a spiritual force have much wisdom for us.

The way I see it is that Gatsby struggled to prevail in the system, and the album talks about the struggle and the results of that struggle that ends with the White Mountains basically saying "We tried. It's no use. It's time to follow our hearts and do what we gotta do follow our hearts and sing the way we like." In other words. It's time to work outside the system and create something for ourselves. And the way I see it is that Gatsby is forging quite a path with all their side projects that are still connected with a community of friends who are about the real music and expressing who we truly are as people.

I used to not like the S/T, but when I started looking at it from this angle, all the puzzle pieces just fell into place.

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#8 05-01-2010 5:04 pm

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Re: Motivation for S/T..

yup

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#9 05-01-2010 10:10 pm

clarissa
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Re: Motivation for S/T..

got me @ oldest mountains in the world


and you laughed like you meant it...like you did it on purpose

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#10 05-01-2010 10:58 pm

ilr2xli
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Re: Motivation for S/T..

and that is how you live up to your username

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